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From: "Kevin J. Maroney" <kmaroney@crossover.com>
Subject: (whorl) Spoiler on the connection between New Sun/Long Sun
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:28:37 

At 11:19 PM 2/15/99 -0600, Robert Patterson wrote:
>I searched the archives and also for a FAQ, but I cannot find any
>discussion of direct links between New Sun & Long Sun. Has anyone proved
>that they are from the same universe? Or do we simply take it on faith
>because Amazon says so? (I worry that this is a bone-crushingly stupid
>question, but I can't remember any obvious connections.)

The link is explicit, but like so many things in Wolfe's works, is
mentioned only once, and you have to make the connection yourself. 

Somewhere in _Lake of the Long Sun_, one of the characters (Cypris, if I
recall correctly) mentions that before he entered Mainframe, Pas's name was

So it is clear that the _Whorl_ was built and launched by Typhon, the
two-headed tyrant autarch of long-ago, whom Severian meets in _Sword of the

That's the only explicit connection between the two works that I've seen or
heard. Other links have been guessed at, but as nearly as I can tell, there
is no conclusive evidence about them. 

   Kevin Maroney | Crossover Technologies 
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