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From: Alastair Reynolds <areynold@estsa2.estec.esa.nl> Subject: Re: (whorl) vampires make bootstrap lift off Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 09:19:46 +0200 Michael Andre-Driussi wrote: > > > (Then again, wombat: don't wings and lifting bodies have an atmospheric > limit? That is, they have no value in a vacuum, and as the object comes > into the gravity well it picks up some speed before the atmosphere is > sufficiently thick enough to provide the lift? I guess I'm saying there's > enough atmosphere for re-entry friction, but not enough for lift, until the > object gets to a certain critical level which is relatively deep into the > gravity well: but I'm just wondering around.) > > =mantis= > No; you're right, Mantis - if the inhumi "fall" from the lagrange point between Green and Blue, then they're essentially going to hit Blue's atmosphere with speed on the order of escape velocity. The only thing they can modify, assuming they don't have a way to slow down in vaccum (stolen PM modules from the Trivigaunti fliers?) is their angle at which they brush the atmosphere. And even with the optimum approach angle (not too steep so that they burn up, or too shallow so that they bounce off), there'll still be an enormous amount of friction. Somehow or other the kinetic energy they've accumulated during their fall has to be converted to heat, and the only variable is whether this happens slowly, in a controlled way (like a space shuttle re-entry) or in a quick burn-up. Barbecued inhumi, anyone? Re: the orbital mechanics of Green/Blue - wasn't the best explanation, as worked out by someone here, that they're analogous to our moon and its small satellite partner Cruithne? It was pointed out that this had been written up (in Nature I think) early enough for Wolfe to have incorporated it into the series. Or was there some fatal flaw in that idea? Al *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com