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From: "Timothy Reilly" <treilly@ozemail.com.au> Subject: (whorl) Re: Digest whorl.v012.n007 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 17:01:59 +1100 Rostrum wrote: > I'll be reading IGJ soon, so I'll be able to catch up with the rest of the > discussion. I'll be happy if it's half as good as OBW! Sadly I don't think IGJ is even half as good. I thought OBW was wonderful, but IGJ is getting too confusing with its astral dream travel all over the place. Also do we really need yet another story about how a clever man helps defeat a superior enemy on the battlefield by a ruse of some sort? This occurred not only in OBW as well, but constantly in Western literature since at least the Iliad. I missed the point of this part of the plot. The obscurity of who the protagonist is and why he does what he does left me a bit irritated after a while. Too much magic and uncertainty seems to be creeping into the plot, and it makes it much harder to identify with the protagonist's problems or choices. As has been pointed out before, why doesn't he just try, with Fava's help perhaps, to astral travel back to Nettle, where he says he wants to be? On a point of detail, I didn't read the bit where the narrator sees Silk covered in blood as being a suicide attempt - since he's meant to be getting a new body, a dead or dying post-suicide one wouldn't be very effective! The speculation about a head removal is fascinating, though I confess I just read it as a sacrificial orgy to try to revitalise Hyacinth. The cover for RTTW looks pretty bad, but they've been going downhill since OBW. Could be a giant super-Baldanders type in RTTW, though the one pictured is far too big for earth strength gravity (which is why Baldanders went underwater ofcourse). Or could be Wolfe in a silly hat, but I hope not! Tim *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com