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From: Alex David Groce <Alex_Groce@gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: (whorl) TBOTSS as fantasy Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:57:41 I don't think SS is fantasy. Or at least, I suspect it's not meant to be read that way. The reason it is problematic is that the narrator makes use of abilities that are as strange as Severian's and we don't understand why he has them or what their implications are. In Severian's case, we (sort of, at least) grasp the mechanisms (the corridors of time, etc.). Also, it's easier to buy an almost apotheosis as SF with cosmic temporal metaphysics as underpinning than to understand what appears to be a curiously limited yet amazingly powerful ability granted by enigmatic people we learn a good deal less about than the hierodules. Basically, SS looks like fantasy until we have further understanding of the role of the Neighbors. I'm willing to bet that if we can get that, it will be much easier to "buy" what Silkhorn does (as a use of the corridors of time, it makes considerable sense). But I, at least, don't think I understand much about the Neighbors at all. The godling seemed vaguely unneeded, and I'm willing to believe that Wolfe used it as an impressive piece of stage setting (though I'd like to have some better justification), but the Neighbors are central to all three books, and I don't think they exist just "to be cool" or give Silk comic book powers to show us how necrotic Urth really was. -- "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 -- Alex David Groce (agroce+@cs.cmu.edu) Ph.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department 8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com