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From: "Robert Borski" <rborski@charter.net> Subject: (whorl) Re: Hierodule = alien, not Hierogrammate Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:58:24 Shellac having expostulated: <Hold on. I don't think that hierodule necessarily = hierogrammate. My impression was that "Hierodule" covered all aliens. Dr. Talos suggests "extrasolarians" which might not include Martians but definitely covers Inhumi.> I doubt you'll find much support for the notion that Hierodule is a generic term for all aliens--unlike, say, cacogen, or as you mention, extrasolarian. From LEXICON URTHUS: "Hierodule one belonging to a race created by the Hierogrammates of the higher universe, Yesod." (p. 168) From URTH OF THE NEW SUN, with Barbatus talking to Severian: ********* "You call us Hierodules, and that is your word and not ours, just as Barbatus, Famulimus and Ossipago are your words, words we have chosen because they are not common and describe us better than your other words would. Do you know what Hierodule means, this word of your own tongue?" "I know that you are creatures of this universe [i.e., Yesod], shaped by those of the next to serve them here. And that the service they desire of you is the shaping of our race, of humanity, because we are the cognates of those who shaped them in the ages of the previous creation." Famulimus trilled, "Hierodule is 'holy slave.'" (p. 36) ********* So clearly Wolfe is using "Hierodule" specifically to designate the aliens who hail from Yesod, not Briah or the front pages of the National Enquirer. Robert Borski *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com