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From: Michael Straight <straight@email.unc.edu> Subject: Re: (whorl) tincture of Pas Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:59:02 On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Adam Stephanides wrote: > on 4/4/01 8:01 AM, Michael Straight at straight@email.unc.edu wrote: > > > Too late! I recant. I'm convinced that vizcacha's interpretation is > > correct: Incanto means that since "Pas" now refers to Pas+Silk that "Pas" > > is present because Silk is present (I guess this is sufficiently eliptical > > that Incanto can say "Pas is here, in a sense" without admiting to himself > > that he is Silk). > > I'd like to be able to agree with this, since I don't believe Silk-in-Pig > has been downloaded into Silk's body either. But I can't. Just because the > divine Silk is linked with Pas, it doesn't follow that Pas is present in the > human Silk. And even if it did, I don't think Horn would say "Pas is here" > based upon Pas's presence in the human Silk unless he consciously recognized > that he was Silk. You misunderstand. Vizcacha is not saying that Incanto has any of Typhon downloaded into him. Incanto is 0% Typhon. But "Pas," as he exists now on the Whorl, is at least partially and perhaps principally Silk. So if the human Silk is present, then Pas is present in a sense because Pas is now based on the human Silk. Thus the first part of the quoted passage, where Incanto says that Pas doesn't exist on the whorl anymore either. The original Pas who was equal to Typhon is gone. The new Pas is Passilk. -Rostrum *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com