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From: Alex David Groce <Alex_Groce@gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: (whorl) Re: Digest whorl.v012.n105 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:56:11 alga wrote: > So I object to your thesis of Wolfe's using epic as an excuse. Epic > is more complicated than that. And I hardly think the Middle Eastern > view of women served up by the Bible--multiple wives and concubines, > Mary and Martha etc.--is more progressive. Let's not forget that > Mary's impregnation was exactly the same as that of Zeus's numerous > ladyfriends. She didn't exactly ask for it, did she? Not that this isn't purely a tangent, but actually in Luke 1 the angel announces things to come to Mary before she is pregnant, and Mary says "May it be to me as you have said." So, in fact, her consent is given. Indeed, in some sense the Magnificat is a poetic expression of the same sentiment. -- "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 -- Alex David Groce (agroce+@cs.cmu.edu) Ph.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department 8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com