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From: ymeynard@globetrotter.qc.ca (Yves Meynard) Subject: (whorl) Pig's eye and astral needles Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 23:00:56 I suppose you have to place me amongst those who were somewhat disappointed by the Short Sun books, though I am still willing to be convinced otherwise. Given Wolfe's skill and deviousness, I am quite ready to believe that most of what appears to be mistakes or negligence is in fact intended and pregnant with meaning. But SS seems to me to have crossed a line, in that a superficial reading of the books does not work. This is unlike NS, where one does not have to understand every detail to nevertheless "get it" -- or at least to come up with a satisfying understanding of the work. The same can be said of LS, which was intelligible at first reading, and which I enjoyed more upon rereading it. But reading the latest archive of these posts all at once (as an aside, Ranjit, would it be possible to break them up into smaller pieces? That > 1MB monster kept bringing my browser to its knees) made it painfully clear that the true story of the SS books is probably quite different from its surface. I don't mind the blurring of the Narrator's identity. One does not have to realize it's really Silk denying his own identity to understand that there is a merging of the two; a full understanding "simply" deepens the poignancy of the situation. I didn't mind not realizing Pig's nature until having it spelled out here; Wolfe did plant clear clues, so it's cool. What is disturbing to me is that there is so much divine possession implicit in the story that one cannot reliably know who is who. Some of the theories put forth here seem way over the top, but it's hard to refute them conclusively. Given also the Narrator's refusal to deal with the crucial events of Horn's life, the unreliability of the narration reaches such a pitch that I sometimes feel the contract with the reader has been broken. Setting aside the generalized spleen, I have two specific questions I hope someone can answer. First, why is the Narrator so far away from Pig (a league and a half, p.334) when his eye is transplanted? How long before was it taken out? Enough time to allow the Narrator to heal and get back on his feet -- but that could be hours as well as days. Why weren't they together on adjacent operating tables? Second question: on p.190, when the Narrator finds himself on Green and fights off a horde of inhumi, he shapes a needler out of thin air and shoots them down. This initially made me cringe, but then the inhumi are described as reacting in different ways. Some "tumble out of the air and [fall] to their deaths". Others are in fact completely immune to the "astral" needles and the Narrator has to club them. This clearly implies that the needles are not tangible: that the inhumi's belief that they have been wounded is what kills them. Since the Narrator can pass through walls as well, I would be tempted to assume that he is not tangible at all himself. But he does interact with his physical surroundings at other times -- or does he? Can someone provide an unambiguous quote to dispel the doubt? Because if we have no clear evidence of interaction with physical objects other than people, then we might theorize that it is the observer's belief in the physicality of astral projections that gives them "substance" to the extent that the _observer_ can be affected. This would certainly make the astral travel episodes feel less contrived/arbitrary. William Ansley's observation that the destination might not be a real place after all is provocative, but I'm not sure we can hope for that. The Neighbors bilocate: this is presumably how they can still be on Blue or Green and at the same time have left the planets behind. Those whom Horn encounters in OBW must therefore have been astrally present in the real world. Yves Meynard *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com