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From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <ddanehy@siebel.com> Subject: RE: (whorl) Pig's eye and astral needles Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:46:15 Quoth Jason Ingram: > The question of tangibility is distinct. I'm not sure how to > delimit "physical" in this case. Key point. I've said before & I'll say again: it is not science fantasy; it is science fiction that makes some relatively unusual (for SF) assumptions about the nature of Universe. In particular, here, Mr Wolfe assumes (if only for the purpose of the novel) that "spirit" is quite real and is (or can be) in some sense "tangible." (As a possible point of comparision, note the treatment of "souls" in the tv series Babylon-5, which I don't recall anyone ever trying to call "science fantasy." Souls, in B5, prove to be (1) demonstrably real, (2) sentient apart from bodies and (3) apparently-immortal.) Now, "spirit" is (as noted before) related to "breath" which is, anciently, synonymous with "life." When you stop breathing, you're dead -- a pretty simple and obvious equation for a pre-EEG society. But "the blood is the life," and if "life=breath=spirit," then to steal the blood is to steal the spirit. Thus, the inhumi, stealing the blood of humans, steal their spirit also; and hence, quite aside from any weird theories of inheritance, their acquisition of intelligence. > The ability of the inhumi to pass as human is in part related to a > sort of psychic camouflage; That's clearly true at least on one level (Krait's statement that humans see what they expect seems, to me at least, disingenuous). Also I would guess that there is a certain amount of "they look human because they have human spirit." We also know (from Fava) that the personality and physiognomy of an inhum[u|a] is at least partially conditioned by who-or-what s/he has most recently dined on, whether this be "psychic" or what. > regarding The Secret: it seems clear that blood passes on > intelligence to offspring. This makes me curious about Patera > Quetzal . . . did one of his parents encounter humans prior to > the Whorl's visit? Not necessarily -- we aren't very clear on how long ago (the last) Neighbors left, but there are some implications that it wasn't _that_ long ago; and we know that the Neighbors visited the _Whorl_ and brought inhumi with them. Suppose, then, that Quetzal originally has intelligence, not from humans, but from Neighbors. Then Quetzal, arriving with the Neighborly "expedition," meets & drinks of at least one human, and so gains some amount of human personality & appearance. --Blattid *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com