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From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <ddanehy@siebel.com> Subject: RE: (whorl) Textual criticism of TBOTSS Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:17:54 > I definitely think it's easier than those, mostly because we have > a single author at the bottom, that being Wolfe. I deeply agree with Anna June (and Adam) on this point. > Bishop Spong (considered by many to be a 'heretic', which I > think is a ridiculously anachronistic term) It is an accurately descriptive term -- though I don't know whether it applies to Spong in particular. Within the context of a community of faith (Christian or otherwise), there are agreed-upon tenets; they are defining of the faith community. Within the context of that community (and ONLY in that context), tenets which directly or by strong implication contradict those community-defining tenets are "heresy." One who believes such tenets is a "heretic," and puts him- or herself outside the pale of the faith community. One who teaches (or attempts to teach) such tenets to others in the community is a "heresiarch," and is actively destructive of the community (at least in its present form; it is possible that the net result of such teaching will actually be a strengthened community). Some examples: Abraham was a heretic in the context of polythestic Chaldaea; so were Peter, Paul, and the other Apostles in the context of monist Judaea; so was Martin Luther in the context of Roman Catholicism. > [Spong] of the Episcopal Church has managed to explain the first > three Gospels in terms of the traditional Jewish liturgical year > without straining the text It seems quite likely to me -- again, I haven't read Spong, but the story as related in the synoptic Gospels is _deeply_ tied to Second-Temple Jewish piety and liturgy. Many of the parables and most of Jesus' encounters with the various priestly factions are completely out of context if you don't understand that. > In comparison, we know that Wolfe, as talented as he is, remains > a single human being with - somewhere - a single writing goal, > even if that/those goal(s) is/are unclear to us. And here I must disagree, or refrain from agreement. It seems very unlikely to me that Wolfe, or any other writer, has a "single" goal in creating a work as complex as -- well, as any reasonably-serious novel. (Disclaimer: I exempt from the term "reasonably-serious novel" (a) most potboiling pulp adventure novels and (b) most "yellow-journalist" novels like THE OCTOPUS and THE JUNGLE -- "most" because there are exceptions, books in both categories that exceed the minimal requirements of their categories.) --Blattid *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com