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From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <ddanehy@siebel.com> Subject: RE: (whorl) Fan fic? Fooey. Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:22:27 Responding to my use of the term "parasitic," his Wombattitude wrote: > Not that we're loading up with judgmental terms here, no, no. No, no. I meant the word in a strictly technical sense; the existence of fanfic is completely dependent on, and draws its energy from, the primary creator of the fictional world. (Or would that be "secondary creator," since the fictional world is, by definition, a secondary creation? In which case the fanfic writer is a tertiary creator, and...) > >MaryJane. > "Mary Sue". Right. Mary Janes are those shoes. Guess who doesn't read much fanfic? (Though I wrote some, and even got paid for it, a very long time ago. It was very bad indeed.) In my defense, I was careful to say "usually (but not always) quite _bad_." I know that good fanfic exists; I'm just not intrepid enough to wade through the jungles of sludge and dig out the good stuff. An interesting side note: Are franchise novels fanfic? Ever? Is "fanfic" a boolean or a fuzzy term? One can see a kind of spectrum running from purest fanfic; to things like the "Best of Trek" anthologies; to the more blatantly fannish Trek novels (i.e., "Spock, Messiah"); to the professionally franchised books; to "authorized continuations" like the Anderson/B.Herbert DUNE books and the "New Foundation Trilogy"; to hommage and parody; to "heavily influenced," and finally ending with "pure" creation (which is _never_ pure). --Blattid *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com