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From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <ddanehy@siebel.com> Subject: RE: (whorl) Fan fic? Fooey. Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:23:53 Me on parasitism: > >...the existence of fanfic is completely dependent on, and > >draws its energy from, the primary creator of the fictional > >world. > I'm not certain I'd agree with that. The point of fanfic is > to create works which fulfill a need that the original > author's work doesn't fill, whether that desire is to see > Kirk and Spock doing it or seeing how Xena reacts to meeting > Patty Duke. H'mmm. Perhaps rather than "energy" I should've said "power"; in any case, my point is that fanfickers don't have to create things like characters and settings, they use pre-existing ones and depend on conditioned responses (their own and other readers') to provide much of the buy-in. That is: if you keep the characters' behavioral and speech patterns pretty much consistent with what's in their original shows/stories, you can rely on the reader investing them with a lot of the life (energy, power, whatever) the original writer/director/actor/ whatever gave them. So you don't have to do very much with K and S; set up the right circumstances (the "hurt/comfort scene," a term I'm ripping off from Joanna Russ's essay on fanfic), and let the biology roll. > (Besides, the biologists I studied under in college said > that the term "parasite" was falling out of favor because > it was impossible to define clearly....) So are "species" and "organism." ("Ecosystem" and "biome" actually turn out to be a little easier.) Like "parasite," the terms are too damn useful (and too damn well-embedded in biological discourse) to go away any time soon. Perhaps, though, the right word would be "saprophytic"? (Though I gather that these days fanfic starts before a show even finishes its run...) > I would argue that William Shatner's _Star Trek_ novels > are blatant fanfic. Mary Sue fanfic, at that. And I would argue that Shatner probably agrees with you; remember his line in the Shatner-vs-Shatner fight scene in the last TOS movie: Shatner 1: I can't believe I _kissed_ you. Shatner 2: It must have been your lifelong ambition. Whatever else Shatner may be, he is aware of his ego "problem" and not afraid to have fun with it. (See also "Free Enterprise.") *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com