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From: "Daniel Fusch" <dfusch@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (urth) the points of it all Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 13:50:52 PST Hi, Cliff! I just need to disagree with you about ONE more thing. I think you're reading Severian wrong. (snip) "I can't imagine Sev *not* judging the contest, had they lived. He's an executioner - very used to making decisions and not getting emotionally invested in the consequences of his judgments. I think he would have judged, if the attack had not occured." Severian tells us, however, that torturers are not supposed to make decisions or judgements. Their task is blind, unquestioning obedience to the decisions passed down to them by the proper authorities. Severian even tells us that he feels extremely uncomfortable when placed in the position of judge, is that he has developed an extreme aversion to judging, so that he is glad when Foila keeps postponing the judgement. And I would also argue that the death of the contestants does not render their dreams and their desires meaningless at all. Their dreams are preserved in the stories, and their love is preserved through the stories (the stories, after all, were told in order to win Foila's hand--except for Foila's story, which was set against the others). By recording the stories, Severian ensures that their lives--and their deaths--are NOT meaningless. But I agree with most of your other points. --Daniel ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/