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From: "Tony Ellis" <tony.ellis@futurenet.co.uk> Subject: (urth) Re: A walk on the wild side Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:18:24 +0100 I’ve always been intrigued by the way Cyriaca's story seems to anticipate what Severian is later told in the “Key to the Universe” chapter of Citadel of the Autarch. In both stories, humanity creates a race of beings that is more perfect than itself. The Hieros can transcend time, the machines have the wildness that humanity has lost. In both stories, the created ultimately remakes, and thereby redeems, the creator. The machines return to us our wildness, the Heiros make us into beings as puissant as themselves. Interestingly, in both stories the act is described as being as much revenge as it is altruism. Being reborn is painful. (The act, one might almost say, of a Torturer). In both stories, the created race is a sort of physical manifestation of humanity's knowledge, learning made flesh. It seems to me that behind both, a specific Wolfean principle can be found: “We believe that we invent symbols. The truth is that they invent us; we are their creatures, shaped by their hard, defining edges.” -- Tony Ellis On-line Editor, PC Format magazine 01225 442244 x2349 http://www.pcformat.co.uk *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/