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From: Alex David Groce <Alex_Groce@gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: (urth) Another tangent Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:16:12 Wolfe's political views are probably not easy to peg. Wolfe talks about his political beliefs in Nutria's interview (http://world.std.com/~pduggan/gwjbj1.html#pol). I would suspect that the closest classifcation would be as a "conservative," but not in the usual American sense of the word--despite what he says in the interview about freedom, I suspect that Wolfe is not a libertarian, and he certainly has strong views about environmental conservation, which would seem not to suggest that. I've read the phrase "baroque conservative" used to describe R. A. Lafferty (and Mark Helprin), with connotations of a complex, non-ideological political approach based strongly in religious or metaphysical belief. That might roughly cover Wolfe as well. Wolfe's opposition to Vodalus seems similar to the opposition to space exploration in C. W. Lewis' three science-fiction novels: space exploration isn't so much bad in and of itself, but it certainly is bad if we go about it with dreams of galactic empire. THE FIFTH HEAD OF CERBERUS suggests how Wolfe thinks we would likely end up behaving in a populated universe (and based on experience on Earth doesn't seem too far out, I'd think). Vodalus clearly wants to reestablish something like Typhon's world-spanning tyranny, which would certainly "pollute the universe." Clearly all space travel isn't bad though--Severian's travels are ok, and there seems to be a positive element to the remaining space travel by humans on the ship (although many sailors turn to the side of Abaia and co.) The passage at the end of the first chapter of CLAW, which we've quoted recently, suggests that Vodalus' aims are sinful in that he is trapped in the past mistakes of humanity--it isn't the future or growth that is originally sinful, but the endless repetition of evil patterns and the rejection of divine guidance to something better: "That we are capable only of being what we are remains our unforgivable sin." -- "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 -- Alex David Groce (agroce+@cs.cmu.edu) Ph.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department 8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/