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From: Jeff Wilson <jwilson@io.com>
Subject: (urth) Re: Lune & Urth
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 23:03:50 

> From: Jeff Wilson <jwilson@io.com>

> > From: "Tony Ellis" <tony.ellis@futurenet.co.uk>
> > Jeff Wilson wrote:
> > >  It's my opinion that it likely plunged into the sun, revitalizing it
> > > before it and the black beans cancel out.
> > Pedant that I am, I have to point out that the black beans don't equate
> > to the black hole gnawing away at the sun. The story of the black beans
> > is the story of how Erebus and co. came to Urth.
>         Then again, can we be sure that's all they represent? Who is
> responsible for putting the black hole in the sun?

	More thinking reveals what might be a sort of inverted literary
allusion in the black beans/black hole matter. (I've pointed out
examples of inverted parallels and analogies in GW's work in times
previous to the Wolfe fans on GEnie.) In a reversal of the Jack and the 
Beanstalk story, the black beans/hole grow a vinculum not up into the 
clouds, but "down" to the Abbadon universe, allowing the bad creatures 
there to make off with the earth's gold, i.e. the energy output required
for the sun to show its natural yellow color when warming the earth. I
suppose that the other treasures that Jack makes off with in the
tale could be the other lost assets of the earth, like the supposed
shortage of metal, but I haven't had to time to take it much farther, 
if I haven't stretched the comparison too far already.

Jeff Wilson
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