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From: "Nigel Price" <nigel.a.price@virgin.net> Subject: (urth) Barton, Barrington, and Pandora's Plato Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:52:25 +0100 Prompted by Alex's recent contribution to the list, I'm currently rereading "Pandora by Holly Hollander". I'd forgotten just how much fun it is. The authorial voice is very well judged, and the picture of Holly which emerges is both affectionate and amusing. Lot's of nice local detail, as well, from the area where Wolfe lives. I noticed with pleasure that the technique of translating Classical place names into English which Wolfe uses in the Latro novels also seems to feature here in a minor way. Would I be right to assume, for instance, that "Dawn", the town in which the genteel nursing home for the wealthy-but-criminally-insane is situated, is actually a pseudonym for the real Ilinois town of "Aurora"? I've looked at my road atlas of the United States to check and, yes, indeed, Aurora is situated out on the western side of the Chicago conurbation. I've assumed, like others, that the fictional town of "Barton" in the novel is really Wolfe's own home town of Barrington. Holly states early on that most of the rich people live to the west of Barton in a place called "Barton Hills". Sure enough, my map of the real Chicago area shows that, to the southwest of Barrington, there is a place called Barrington Hills. There's also a place called South Barrington marked (to the south, of course!), and another (to the north) called Lake Barrington. Holly states that Barton is "a town of about 10,000". Is that the size of the real Barrington? She also says that it's "65 miles by car from the Loop." Do any list members live in or know the greater Chicago area well? Is that the real distance from Barrington to the city centre? It doesn't look that far on my map - it looks more like 30 miles. And, for the record, why is that area of central Chicago called "The Loop"? Could she in real life have made the journey to Aurora by getting a train into Chicago and then a Greyhound Bus out to Aurora? How long would it have taken her? (Like it matters!) I was also delighted to see that when (chapter 7, "How War Came to Barton", p56 in the NEL paperback edition) Aladdin Blue explains the myth of Pandora to Holly at the book sale, he offers an explicitly Platonic interpretation: "In the first place," Blue lectured, "it's a commentary on Platonism - the idea that each real thing is an imperfect attempt to duplicate an ideal one. Epimetheus had made mankind like the gods, so the gods made Pandora like a goddess. The Greeks were saying that real people are carricatures of ideal people - their gods." Now, this is gold dust to me, because I've been asserting for some time that the rationale behind Wolfe's use of symbolism is essentially Platonic, particularly in The Book of the New Sun. I even pestered people (sorry, Potto) with questions about where they thought Wolfe got his Platonism from - primary or secondary sources? Here, at least, is a direct reference to a philosopher whose ideas (or do I mean "Ideas"?) are, I believe, central to Wolfe's work. An interesting comment on the significance of myth in general occurs on the next page (p57), where Aladdin Blue explains the difference between history and myth: "But the real difference is that the events that make up history are over and done with, while myth continues, circling our earth forever, like the chariot of Helios." I suspect that Wolfe would probably categorise Biblical events as myths in this sense (which is no comment on their historicity or otherwise), and that's one reason why their patterns keep re-occuring in his novels, even when those novels are set in the distant future. Aladdin Blue interprets Pandora's Box as, "the part of the human brain that's suppressed in the interests of society." That seems to give us the other part of the puzzle when it comes to grappling with the rationale behind Wolfe's use of symbollism: the psychological. Myths deal with archetypes of human thought and behaviour. All very traditional, in fact, and fully in accord with ideas that were floating around in Classical thought, became highly fashionable in the Late Middle Ages and Renaissance with the "Ovide Moralisee" and the various psychomachias and allegorisations, and regained renewed impetus at the end of nineteenth century from the theories of Freude and Jung, when, for example, the myth of Oedipus gained, shall we say, a new complexity... So: the physical world as a reflection of divine reality, myths as the recurring patterns whereby the physical world reflects that greater reality, and myths as symbollic statements of enduring psychological truths. Excellent! All grist to the Lupine literary critical mill.... Nigel Minety, Wiltshire England *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/