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From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <ddanehy@siebel.com> Subject: Re: The Ring & The Claw Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 11:59:07 -0800 Dan Rabin wrote: > With respect to the recent discussion on Tolkien's influence on > Wolfe, I'd like to propose that the Claw of the Conciliator is, in > some respects, a Wolfean reversal of the One Ring: Well, while I don't think I would go so far as this (in the sense of Wolfe deliberately doing so), I think you make (the beginnings of) an interesting case for a comparative discussion of the books, especially wrt a structuralist/poststructuralist discussion of the similar & different ways the two objects fill the paradigm of "ancient, powerful talisman." Let's add to your list of similarities: Both objects come into the protagonist's hands by seeming chance. Both objects give the possessor power "according to his stature." Both objects are ultimately destroyed during a battle with an enemy who seeks to take it from the protagonist. Neither object looks extraordinary to a casual viewer. And to the reversal list: The Ring is destroyed by seeming chance; the Claw is destroyed by petty malice. Frodo finds himself unable to give up the Ring; Severian finds that the "owners" will not accept (the remains of) the Claw. --Blattid