From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes"
Subject: RE: (urth) Sinner Question Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:05:19 -0700 Quoting me, Dragonfly wrote: > >Another critically significant point of the Christian episteme is > >that sin is a kind of bondage; that as long as we remain sinners, > >we are not in fact free. > [More Snips] > I do not know much about the particular differences of the > many Protestant flavors, and I know even less about Catholicism. Oh. Well, you know we're all a bunch of pagan goddess-worshipping slaves of Rome, I presume, so what more would you need to know? 8*) > I was raised in a Methodist setting, and I was taught that > all people are sinners, whether they accept Christ as their > savior or not -- being a believer does not exempt one from being > a sinner. Is this different for the Catholic system? Of course not -- St Paul is clear on this; all are sinners (tho' Catholics and, I believe, Orthodox believe that Mary is an exception, not through her own doing but through the "immaculate conception," a special miracle which allowed her to be born without the taint of original sin, as a fitting "vessel" for Christ); and even after salvation, we continue to be sinners -- Paul speaks of "doing what I hate," etc. --Dan'l --