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From: "Robert Borski" <rborski@charter.net>
To: <urth@urth.net>
Subject: Re: (urth) The Coldhouse Prank
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 00:53:35 -0500
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Stone Ox writes:
> Robert Borski argues quite eloquently that Ted Singer's father
is the
victim
> in the coldhouse prank. I don't think this can be right,
because the
victim
> lived in a boarding house, was locked in on Friday, and nobody
noticed he
was
> missing until he was discovered on Monday. If the victim
had had a wife
or
> girlfriend, surely he would have been discovered
sooner.
But look who imparts this information about the weekend tragedy and
the
boarding house connection: Dan French, who, not having been a
factory
employee at the time, is simply repeating the sanitized version of
the story
as it's been spun down through the years and perhaps even
through
semi-official channels, since there's been a coverup. (I do,
however, and
for obvious reasons, like the notion that the victim died on
Friday.) He
doesn't remember the name of the victim and is completly unaware
there is an
even more sinister side to the entire episode, with a lone person
being
responsible for the victim's death. As Den also reminds us earlier,
such
stories have a way of becoming "both faded and embroidered by
time," which
results in a further blurring of the details. And lastly when Dan
French
tells the story of the sidhe, it deviates from the traditional in
several
respects.
In other words I think there's plenty of reason to doubt his version
of the
story.
Robert Borski
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From: matthew.malthouse@guardian.co.uk
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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:42:15 +0100
Subject: Re: (urth) PEACE: 3 Misses
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On 20/08/2002 06:08:34 Roy C. Lackey wrote:
> I can make nothing of "Tyler".
Not having read Peace I have no idea if there's any relevance but
the word
can mean door or gate keeper. Archaic and obsolete except in
Masonic
Lodges where the additional meaning of keeping out the uninitiated
applies
and Tyler is a formal position. To tyle the lodge; bar the doors
assured
that only the aurhorised are within.
The more prosaic meaning being a tiler, one who makes, provides or
lays
(roof) tiles. The "i" spelling is prfered to the
"y" after about 1670
although the "y" remains more common as a name.
From that a cat that frequents roofs. A sneak-thief or
burgular.
Obscurly; also a c17 shoplifter.
Is that of any help?
Matthew
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