From: "James Wynn"
Subject: RE: (urth) Gnostic Wolfe vs CE Wolfe Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:59:02 -0600 First of all, thanks for the recommended readings on Gnosticism. Tom said: Given the article's (necessary) paucity of details concerning the various Gnostic doctrines, Wolfe certainly had other sources. Crush responds: Perhaps he did. But the CE strikes me as a touchstone of his. He has other sources for Greek mythology as well, but he returns to Graves' works again and again for how to view them. Tom said: Gnostics had a variety of beliefs about the material world, ranging from it being evil to simply irrelevant. A common thread is the idea that the material world is not as important as the spiritual one, an idea they shared with Christianity. Crush responds: I'm certain you're more qualified on this issue than I am. I presume you are correct about the variety of view points in Gnosticism regarding the created world. Still, J.P. ARENDZEN's view of Gnosticism does not strike me as at odds with view of it by the Gospel of John, with Revelation, with Jude, or the letters of Paul. I realize, of course, these are the *non-gnostic* Christian texts, yet I presume they are Wolfe's as well. Tom said: Maybe I'm missing the meaning of pessimism, but salvation through gnosis seems a lot less pessimistic than predestination. Crush responds: Hmmm. It seems to me you are confusing "predestination" with "fatalism." An easy mistake, but they're not the same thing. --