From: "Jeff Veyera"
Subject: (urth) Latin in Severian's Day Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 09:45:10 -0700 I don't think Latin is extant---I believe it was indicated in Shadow = that Latin is employed as an indication of an ancient tongue, but was = not that language in fact. Teflon -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Crill [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 1:37 AM To: email@example.com Subject: (urth) One Ship: reply Something screwy is going on with my email. First it sends scrambled = messages to the List, and then I stop recieving the List for a week. = Hmm... =20 Anyway, I didn't intend the 'One Ship' idea to be particularly = convincing. Its one of those fond oddball ideas that would be almost = impossible to prove correct or incorrect. I also didn't take the = Captain's statement about one ship as literal, though I didn't make that = clear in my original message. The Captain seems to be speaking in some = sort of poetical sense concerning the ideal of 'shiphood'. The = strongest suggestion of this whole theory seems to be the fact that = Gunnie has no idea what Cargo the Ship carries. She indicates that the = Crew doesn't have access to the cargo holds at all, yet such holds must = be unimaginably huge. =20 -I agree with the the symbolic idea of the Ship as the Church. Its very = plain. I might point out, however, that the Whorl carries the same = symbology, only its 'heavenly destination' is Blue/Green rather than = Yesod. =20 -When Silk and the others saw the Whorl from outside, it simply appeared = as a bright spot in the Sky. Tzadkiel's ship would appear the same, = depending on its distance from Blue/Green. =20 -There is no evidence of genetically engineered animals (destrier's etc) = existing on Tzadkiels's ship, only the apported animals which are = confined to the crew's zoo. Genetically engineered animals could have = been introduced to Urth by the Hierodules after the launching of the = Ship. =20 -Its true that Jonas and Sidero differ in ways from the Chems of the = Whorl, but there are a variety of Chems that are constructed differently = and serve different purposes. Contrast Maytera Marble with a Talos. =20 -Why do you believe the Whorl travels slower than the speed of light? I = don't see this indicated anywhere. Arguments about the date when the = Whorl was launched and when Typhon reigned don't apply if the Whorl = travels as fast as Tzadkiel's ship. =20 -The Chrasmologic Writings contain French and Latin because, A: Its a = religious writing. B: It was written and the Whorl was launched far = before Severian's time. Also, Latin is extant in Severian's day, along = with Greek and Spanish. =20 -Chems wouldn't be found on Urth at all if they were invented on board = the Ship. Reference Sidero's claims concerning this. Jonas was an = exception, and he clearly came from the Ship rather than Urth. =20 =20 Ash QvN r?zgv =1C&?=1A?? w --