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From: "Alice Turner" <akt@attglobal.net> Subject: (whorl) Re: Digest whorl.v010.n056 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:31:57 The Rodent opined: > At 08:09 PM 11/16/99 -0500, Slimina of the Green Goo wrote: > > > >2. There have been a lot of guesses about "the secret of the inhumi," and > >the front-runner for a while was that it was simply that they took on (or > >could take on) aspects of the prey along with the blood; when they > >encountered a sentient race for the first time, it revolutionized them. > >Another conjecture has to do with their obviously being able to survive a > >long time without sustenance in a mummified state. But later thinking is > >that it's more complicated than that--it's a secret that if known could > >destroy them--and that Wolfe just hasn't given it to us even in clue form > >yet. > > > >Arguments invited. > > It's Rat Time, Slimina! > > To begin with, courtesy of Kieran: > > Horn: "If only we cared about each other sufficiently. If only all of us > loved all the others enough, they would go back to [mindless beasts]. We > would still think them horrible creatures, and they would still be > dangerous, as the crocodiles in this lower river water are. But they would > be no worse." > Evensong: "That is the secret, what you said?" > Horn: "No, of course not." [p.375] > > So, let's invert that. The inhumi take on our characteristics. We are not > very nice people: enslaving others, raping wimmin, etc. What if we become > good, "Green Man" types, like the forerunners of Blue? What would the > inhumi become then? Good guys! Hey, is that why old Quetzal becomes a good > guy, because of hanging around and being near Silk? > Inhumi are animals, "underpeople" of Cordo Smith, but of a different sort. > Their salvation depends on and proceeds from human salvation. > My guess. It think the clews are there, but I may be taking them wrongly. > > Slavering Nutria of the Dripping Jowl I think you are correct, but that this is not the secret. I also think that "hanging around and being near" doesn't have much, if anything to do with it; it's the actual ingestion of blood. The two people we know Q bit had in common only their youth. Teasel was a young girl and whashisname, Oosik's son, was probably no more than 18. And he certainly got a gleam in his eye inspecting those troops of probably mostly teenage girls. But Horn's "No, of course not!" seems to imply that the actual secret is something else. I also think that your premise is too straight-forward and goody-goody for Wolfe. -slimora *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com