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From: Alex David Groce <Alex_Groce@gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: (whorl) Re: Digest whorl.v010.n124 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:02:06 alga said: >Wolfe lets you know that he's up to something: he writes >a secret dispatch in very CIA style almost immediately, but of course we >can't figure out just what he's up to until several books later. No, I >don't think there's common agreement on this, though. Yes. In fact, the "Silk for Calde" graffiti shows up shortly after, and Horn lets us in on the (strong likelyhood anyway) that it wasn't one of the schoolboys who wrote it. And this is before the populace would (I think) realistically get going on its own from just Silk's streetside conversation with Blood. On the prophecy thing--does anyone in the books ever attempt to make a prophecy (augury) or even have a dream that doesn't foreshadow events to come? I think that although there's no time-travel going on here, lots of things seem as locked in as in BOTNS. Interestingly, Silk's first enlightenment is sparse on scenes from the future. Is any explanation (other than Silk's "talent" and self-fulfilling prophecy with respect to the thefts in Lake) given for the wild success of augury/random-page-opening? >Sure. Hasn't the truth made you free? What are you studying, anyway? Computer science, formal verification of systems. For anyone who's amazingly, amazingly bored see www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce/research.html. Average time here at CMU is still 6.5 yrs to PhD. I think it's roughly the same at MIT and all the other top comp. sci. schools. "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 -- Alex David Groce (agroce+@cs.cmu.edu) Ph.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department 8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066 http://www.cs.cmu. edu/~agroce *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com