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From: Joel Priddy <mossmail@yahoo.com> Subject: (whorl) Green Thoughts Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:46:36 Ahoy, ahoy, I thoroughly enjoyed IGJ, and have since thoroughly enjoyed catching up on the discussion here. Here's my two cents... The Inhumi Secret: Although I wish it were otherwise, I left IGJ with the distinct impression that the Golden Rule was the secret of the inhumi. All of the business with inhumi feeling that they were human spirits caught in vampire bodies, and wanting nothing more than to be fully human, seemed to be leading up to it (Although I guess it's significant that Jahlee can't give up her little love-nips when in Nessus). But the clincher was when Horn is talking to Hide about the inhumi, and Jahlee interrupts him at some point, and basically states the Golden Rule thing , and Horn replies with "I wasn't going to say that, and I never would say that." Which I take to mean that saying it would break his oath. Although maybe he would never say that because he thinks its a silly idea too, but that wasn't how I read it. Also, one of the earlier convincing arguments against the Golden Rule being the secret was that it was impractical to employ, and IGJ states several times that the secret is impractical. Unwieldy, as it were. Oh, and then there's the whole Eucharist thing... I rolled my eyes when I first read the scene. It seemed to me that Wolfe was getting a little lazy and too direct when it came to the Catholic references. But it just occurred to me to project it onto the inhumi. Humans participate in a pretend blood-sharing ritual to pretend to be closer to Divine Nature. Inhumi participate in a real blood-sharing ritual in order to really participate in human nature. So they become a degraded parallel to our own striving for Grace, which is accomplished via the Golden Rule. Much of IGJ seems to be about showing us that the inhumi are worthy of charity. We see that Horn's relationship to Krait wasn't the exception brought on by Krait being Sinewy, but could be the rule. If Horn can just keep adopting inhumi... Reverence of Pas: I don't think we can be thinking about Pas as being just a disembodied Typhon anymore. We all know that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, but it seems that divine power makes you indistinguishable from God, and therefore you sorta become a part of God. Kypris is a precedent here, but Wolfe stories are full of things imitating things so well that they become what they were imitating. Time turning our lies into truths, and such. This, plus the possible addition of Outsider-inspired Silk into his system may make Pas an entity worthy of reverence. Oreb in the dream projections: I'm sorry, but I just can't stop think of Heckel and Jeckel (sp?), the cartoon birds. No matter how I try to picture Oreb during his feathered dwarf episodes, I can't get past cartoon imagery. In my weaker moments I even picture him with the stub of a cigar and three-fingered gloves. cephalothorax __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com