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From: William Ansley <wansley@warwick.net> Subject: Re: (whorl) Finally finished RTW <SPOILERS> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 01:18:13 I'm going to comment on one of your questions and try to answer another. I am not sure if some of the others can be answered in any definite way; it will be interesting to see what other responses you get. At 8:33 PM -0600 2/16/01, Endymion9 wrote: >2. Revelations. Call me dense but I never understood that Maytera Mint was >not a chem. I thought every Maytera was a chem. So it was just coincidence >that Maytera Rose and Maytera Marble were? Also, thinking of Mint made me >realize that Wolfe reused a similar pattern in the *good* men of the Whorl. I won't call you dense, but you weren't paying as much attention as you might have been. Maytera Marble was the only sybil of the three who was a chem, and she may have been the only chem sybil in all of Viron. In the city of Viron, beings with the names of minerals or mineral-derived products are chems. Those with the names of plants or plant-derived products are bio women and those with the names of animals or animal-derived products are bio men. (There is no naming distinction between male and female chems, apparently. I'd call this Bio chauvinism on the part of Pas--or whoever came up with the naming conventions.) Maytera Rose was very old and sick and was only kept alive by means of the many prosthetic parts that had been surgically implanted in her body. When even these prostheses could no longer keep Rose alive, Maytera Marble claimed some of them as spare parts. In Wolfe's universe, robot and human parts are pretty much interchangeable. That robot parts could be used as prosthetic parts for humans and vice-versa is less silly than the idea that a robot (Jonas, in TNotNS) could be repaired with human flesh, but it still puts something of a strain on the reader's credulity (mine, at least). >3. Why did the corn farmer attack Horn, even after he said he was leaving? >Why give him the corn just to kill him? When Wolfe writes passages like >these I feel so dense, like I'm the only one clueless as to what is going on ><grin>. The farmer's motivation certainly isn't crystal clear to me either, but my opinion is that he wouldn't have attacked Horn if Horn had just left without confronting him when the farmer first told Horn to leave. To put it bluntly, Horn pissed the farmer off. The farmer seems to have been a bully; perhaps he thought Horn would run or beg for mercy. But instead Horn showed the farmer that he was not afraid of him. Horn even told the farmer that he could beat him with a rotten stick and then chastised him for threatening a man who was (the farmer thought, at least) old and weak. The farmer was probably frightened when he saw Horn was not afraid of him and ashamed when Horn chastised him. Both these emotions tend to lead to anger and the farmer struck out at Horn in anger when he turned his back on him to leave. His anger won out over his fear when he could no longer see Horn's (Silk's) face, perhaps. Another possibility that does not exclude the one above is that the farmer recognized that this person who said his name was Horn looked just like Silk or at least had suspicions along those lines. He may have wondered what Silk was up too and whether he was insane. When the farmer threatened Horn and Horn responded without the fear the farmer expected, this may have given the farmer more reason to think something was wrong with Horn's mind. It is understandable that the farmer might want to drive off an unpredictable looney and might attack one that seemed dangerous. That's my two cents, anyway. William Ansley *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com