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From: Alex David Groce <Alex_Groce@gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: (whorl) RTTW spoilers, Delusional and/or Quixotic Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 21:17:43 <snipped> Nice post, mantis. Note that there is also Nutria's reading: Horn isn't delusional, but his family & Remora (our editors) are. I find the most convincing reading to be a mixture of the Quixotic and the delusional: Horn and Silk are both present in the body from the moment of the transfer from Green. Silk, however, is in a funk--while he contributes to the actions of Silkhorn, at first he does not wish to acknowledge himself as still alive. Equally, Horn doesn't want to admit to himself that he's "dead," but certainly can't say "I'm Silk now"--both because he's sane enough to know that he isn't the Silk that New Viron needs, even if he is the real Silk in some sense. He's also having a hard time admitting that Silk is in him wishing he were dead. The Long Sun narration makes it clear that the little suicide scene on top of the airship was traumatic for Horn. This is much worse. The behavior ends up being very Silkish because both Horn (& the slowly emerging real Silk) view "book Silk" as a very good man. After all, thouhg Horn invented, to some extent, "book Silk," where do we think he got his idea of what a good man is? Remora doesn't drive Horn out as in an excorcism so much as force Silkhorn to acknowledge that by this point Horn has faded away--he can die now, because he hasn't failed, really. Silk has become willing to live by this point, but isn't willing to admit he's alive. Horn has become less and less essential, but cannot admit to himself that he is dead until Silk no longer needs him. So, why, having become himself again, does Silk take off to return to the whorl? As I see it, Silk sees that the two problems facing the colonists are not ones he can solve. p. 314 is the crucial point. First, Silk considers the government of New Viron. The _real Silk_, we know, gave up rulership in Viron once it became clear that he could not rule without forcing his will upon an unwiling populace. New Viron is in much worse state. "Silk would pray, of course." If prayer and the influence of "book Silk" are all (hardly nothing, I would say) he can do, he can do that as well from the Whorl, where he may really be needed. Also, remember that at this point it is mostly Silk running the show. Silk's home is the Whorl. He was willing to leave when it was the order of Pas and the Outsider, but even then he turned back for Hyacinth, and never left, though surely he had opportunities over the years. He is a stranger on Blue. The second problem is that of the inhumi, and again, it is the problem of evil. Indeed, despite his having discovered the humanity of the inhumi, Silkhorn is still himself capable of murdering his daughter when she attacks Nettle. He knows enough to doubt that there is a "solution" to this problem other than the one above--for men to be better than they are. -- "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 -- Alex David Groce (agroce+@cs.cmu.edu) Ph.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department 8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com