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From: Michael Straight <straight@email.unc.edu> Subject: Re: (whorl) Re: Digest whorl.v012.n105 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:11:15 Alga wrote: From Rostrum: >> But what does Horn think about the rape? He says that the fault is his >> own, and he says the song is no excuse, but he does mention it, possibly >> wanting his readers to excuse him. (Of course this is Silk|Horn writing. >> Is Silk dragging an honest confession from a rapist who wants to excuse >> himself, or is Silk finding the true cause behind Horn's attempt to blame >> himself?) > To have her bleeding to the point she cannot swim? Perhaps you are > excusing him too much. Until the Wooly Bug's post, I tended to do that > too. If anything, the extreme brutality of what happened makes me lean more toward believing that Seawrack's song produced some kind of irresistable compulsion to act as Horn did. It all depends on how it works. If the song simply increases Horn's desire to do what he wants, then it reveals that his desires are pretty ugly and Horn should be condemned for acting on them (but I'd also be tempted to give him credit for normally keeping such desires in check--unless you buy an extreme Bad Horn theory that has him doing lots of ugly stuff he never tells us about--Nettle could hardly survive such treatment regularly even if she were the type to stay with so abusive a husband, nor is it likely his Gaonese concubine would escape with him if he were normally that brutal--but then that's Silk). But if the song actually compells Horn to act in a certain way, then whether he's nice or ugly doesn't tell us anything about Horn because it's not him doing. What we really need to know is what sort (if any) of madness or mind control the song causes. And given the scant evidence we have, I'm inclined to think that it is sufficiently mindwarping to give Horn the benefit of the doubt. -Rostrum *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request@lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth@lists.best.com