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From: "Alex David Groce" <adgroce@eos.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: (urth) Ex-lurker Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:34:51 On Apr 6, 4:02am, Roy C. Lackey wrote: > As for the logic of what came when; in a circular, time-travel story, > one point on the circumference is about as good as another. If the circle is > broken at any point, the whole thing collapses. I don't have a better answer > than that; I don't know that there is one. If there is one, it may be > related to Wolfe's views on predestination. I don't know whether or not the > views expressed by Silk could be taken as Wolfe's, but on the second page of > chapter V of _Nightside_ he has Silk thinking: > > "...the Outsider had assured him that his regard for him was eternal and > perfect, never to be changed by any act of his, no matter how iniquitous or > how meritorious." > > Now _that_ is predestination, pure and simple. FWIW Maybe. But notice the word "eternal"--which would imply the solution of St. Augustine, that "predestination" means that God's knowledge is outside time, which is a creation, and therefore perfect foreknowledge doesn't mean compulsion. And "regard" is a tricky point too--as far as I'm aware, orthodox theology of most varieties has God loving everybody always and perfectly--but people can reject the love. I would, given Wolfe's Catholicism and general emphasis on an almost existential freedom, be surprised if he believes in a Calvinist or similar form of predestination--I'd suspect he falls heavily, even within the Catholic schools of thought, into the free-will camp. -- "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free." - John 8:32 -- Alex David Groce (adgroce@eos.ncsu.edu) Senior (Computer Science/Multidisciplinary Studies in Technology & Fiction) '98-99 NCSU AITP Student Chapter President 608 Charleston Road, Apt. 1E (919)-233-7366 http://www4.ncsu.edu/~adgroce *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/