From: "Andrew Bollen"
Subject: Re: (urth) Two Ships Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:21:55 +1000 The universes of New Sun and Short Sun really don't fit together very snugly. IMO, if you took them as standalones, you'd say that Short Sun is in the future, while New Sun is in the *deep* future. A few hundred years versus a geological age or two. I think that GW did a lot of back-filling to tie them together. (Not that I really mind - myths are generlly cobbled together from pieces which don't fit very well, in a logical sense.) Obvious examples: - Typhon in New Sun at least desires to rule an inter-stellar empire, and offers Sev the job of satrap of Earth. How does this make any sense without superluminal travel? If Typhon can travel faster than light, why build the Whorl? If he can't, is he really going to feel good about a clunky slower-than-light hollow asteroid crawling through space while the immense shp/s of the Hiero-whatsits leap/s over dimesnional boundaries? - The universe of New Sun has a bunch of human-settled planets in some kind of contact with each other, if only via port-calls by Tzadkiel's ship. Why would Typhon think it was a cool thing to send out a slow boat to found a crappy little colony when these old, established ones already exist, and he presumably intends to conquer them? - The literary survivals from our age in the Chras Writings are *really* implausible for a deep future setting. - At some point in Exodus Silk talks of French and Latin as extant languages (at least literary languages). Ditto. - Why none of the bio-engineered animals from New Sun on the Whorl? No destriers, no smilodons ... - Why no chems on Urth, apart from throwbacks like Jonah? Maybe there are some around at the time of Sev vs Typhon in UOTNS; we don't meet them, AFAIK. But surely Typhon's army would have been predominantly chems? --